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Chimney repointing: lime or cement mortar?

Lime or cement: choosing the mortar that suits the brick

Repointing renews the mortar between the bricks, and the mortar you choose decides whether the repair lasts or does harm. Here is how to match it to an old stack.

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Mortar is the sacrificial part of a brick wall. It is meant to be softer than the bricks, to take the weather first and to wear away so that the bricks do not. When it has worn back far enough, water gets into the joints and the stack starts to fail. Repointing, which means raking out the worn mortar and packing in new, puts that protection back.

On a modern house, with hard bricks and cement mortar, the choice is simple. On an older house, it is not. Old bricks are often softer, fired at lower temperatures, and they behave differently from modern ones. Put a hard cement mortar in joints between soft bricks and the stronger material holds while the softer one wears. The faces of the bricks flake away, and the repair does the harm it was meant to prevent.

This guide explains the difference between lime and cement mortar, how to match the colour and profile of old joints, what changes on a period house or in a conservation area, and how the work is done. It belongs with our wider chimney repairs advice.

What repointing does, and when a stack needs it

The joints in a chimney stack are among the most exposed in any wall. The stack stands clear of the roof, with weather on every face, and has no overhang to shelter it. Rain, frost and wind work the joints year after year, and the mortar slowly erodes.

Signs from the ground

Look at the stack with binoculars. Joints that are recessed far behind the face of the brick, mortar that is crumbly or sandy, gaps where mortar has gone altogether, and loose bricks are all signs. Grains of sand in the gutter below, or on the roof, mean the mortar is breaking down.

Signs inside

Damp on the chimney breast, and patches that darken in wet weather, can point to water coming through open joints in the stack. Other causes exist, such as the flashing or the flaunching, so a survey decides.

What repointing is not

It is not a cure for bricks that have lost their faces, for a leaning stack or for a failed flashing. Repointing sound brickwork preserves it. Where the brick itself has failed, the answer is a rebuild, and our guide to when a chimney needs rebuilding explains how to tell.

A good roofer will look at the whole stack, not only the joints, and photograph each fault so you can see it. Ask for the photographs to be dated, and keep them with the house papers.

Lime and cement mortar compared

The two materials behave differently, and the difference matters most on old brick.

Cement mortar

Cement mortar is hard, strong and sets quickly. It suits modern, hard-fired brick and engineering brick, where the bricks are as strong as the mortar. It is stiff, which means it does not move with the wall, and it is relatively impermeable, so moisture tends to leave through the brick instead.

Lime mortar

Lime mortar is softer and more flexible. It takes up small movements without cracking, and it allows moisture to pass through it, so damp leaves a wall through the joints rather than through the face of the brick. It sets more slowly, and needs the right conditions to cure.

The principle

The mortar should be no stronger than the bricks. If the joints are harder than the brick, the brick becomes the sacrificial part and the wall loses its faces. On a period stack, with soft handmade brick, lime is usually the sounder choice. On a stack built of hard modern brick, cement, or a mix with lime, can be right.

Mixed mortars

Many modern repairs use a mix of lime, sand and a little cement, chosen to suit the brick. A roofer should be able to say what mix they propose and why. If the answer is simply whatever is in the van, ask more questions.

Roofers differ in their experience of lime, so ask whether the firm has used it on a stack like yours, and ask for pictures of a finished stack that has weathered for a year or two.

Matching the colour, sand and joint profile

A repointed stack should look as if it has always been there. A bright, uniform new joint around old, weathered brick jars when seen from the road, and on a period house it can spoil the character of the whole front.

Colour and sand

The colour of mortar comes largely from the sand. Sharp builders' sand, soft sand and sands of different colours give different results. A roofer who matches the old mortar will look at the colour of the surviving joints and choose a sand to suit. The new mortar will look paler at first and weathers towards the old.

Joint profile

The shape of the joint matters as much as the colour. A flush joint is level with the brick face. A struck or weather-struck joint is angled to shed water. A recessed joint sits back from the face. Older work often has a profile of its own, and repointing should follow what was there. Photographs taken before the work show the original.

No ribbon pointing

Pointing that stands proud of the brick, in a raised band, is called ribbon pointing. It looks heavy and holds water on its upper edge. It is a poor finish for any stack.

A trial area

On a prominent period stack, ask for a small trial area to be done first, and look at it when it has dried. That lets you agree colour and profile before the whole stack is done.

If you cannot get a match, say so before the work starts.

Period homes, conservation areas and the council

On an older house the choice of mortar is not only a question of what lasts. It also affects the appearance of a building that may be controlled.

Permitted development does not cover chimneys

Class C, which allows alterations to a house roof, excludes chimneys. Repointing is repair and does not change the appearance, so it is not usually development. A change to the brick, the height or the style of a stack is judged separately.

Listed buildings

On a listed house, listed building consent covers alterations to the building's character. A matching mortar may be treated as repair, but ask the council first, because a harder or differently coloured mix can change how the building reads. Our guide to listed building roof repairs sets out the route.

Conservation areas and Article 4

In a conservation area, ask the council whether an Article 4 direction applies to your street. An Article 4 direction withdraws specified permitted development rights across a defined area. In Basingstoke, the directions in four town conservation areas ask for original roofing materials to be kept, with modern substitutes unlikely to be accepted. For Andover addresses, ask Test Valley Borough Council.

The council decides

Where a North Wessex Downs National Landscape applies, the partnership is advisory only, and the council remains the planning authority.

Photographs of the existing joints, and a note of the mortar proposed, make a conversation with the council easier.

How repointing is done

Good repointing is slow, careful work, and it is mostly preparation.

Raking out

The old mortar is raked out to a sound depth, by hand or with a suitable tool, taking care not to chip the brick edges. Cutting too shallow leaves new mortar sitting on a weak bed, and cutting with a power tool carelessly can damage soft brick. Dust is brushed out and the joints are dampened.

Filling and finishing

The new mortar is pressed in firmly in layers, and finished to the chosen profile. Timing matters, because mortar is tooled when it has stiffened enough to hold its shape. The face of the brick is kept clean as the work goes on.

Curing

Fresh mortar needs mild, damp conditions to cure properly. Lime mortar in particular should be kept from hard frost and from drying too fast in strong sun. A roofer who waits for the right weather is protecting your work, even if it means the scaffold stands a little longer.

The stack top

The pointing is only as sound as the crown above it. The flaunching and the pots get checked on the same visit; chimney flaunching has its own guide.

Access and wildlife

The work needs a scaffold or tower, because it takes time and the roofer needs both hands. Birds nest in stacks. Section 1 of the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981 catches anyone who intentionally destroys a nest that is in use, so an occupied stack is left until the young have flown.

When repointing is enough, and what it costs

Repointing is the right answer when the bricks are sound and the mortar is the failing part. It is not enough when the brick is spalling across large areas, when the stack is leaning, or when the flashing is the real source of a leak.

A sensible order

A survey should look first at the structure, then at the brick, then at the joints, the flaunching and the flashings. If the structure and brick are sound, repointing and a new flaunching often put a tired stack right. If they are not, the roofer should say so plainly and explain why.

What sets the price

Price follows the stack: its height, how many faces and flues it has, how much old mortar must come out, the mix chosen and how it is reached. A tall stack takes longer, and scaffold time adds to the price. Lime work needs more care and more time than a plain cement job. A written total follows the survey.

One total price

The written total should name how much of the stack is repointed, which mortar is used, whether the flaunching is included and who pays for scaffold. A quote that does not name the mortar leaves the key choice unmade.

Keep a record

Take photographs of the stack before, during and after, and keep them with your house papers. They show the original joint profile, what was done and the weather at the time.

If a stack looks crumbly, a survey will say what it needs.

Mortar questions

Is lime mortar better than cement for repointing a chimney?

On an old stack of soft handmade brick, usually. Lime is softer, flexes with small movements and lets moisture leave through the joints. Cement is stiff and strong, and can make soft bricks lose their faces. On hard modern brick a cement or mixed mortar can be right. The mortar should be no stronger than the brick.

Do I need consent to repoint a chimney on a listed building?

Repointing in a matching mortar may count as repair. Listed building consent applies where the character of the building changes, and a harder or differently coloured mix can do that. Ask the council before you start, and send it photographs of the existing joints and a note of the mortar you propose to use.

How can I tell if my chimney needs repointing?

From the ground, look for joints set far back from the brick face, crumbly or sandy mortar, gaps and loose bricks, and for sand grains in the gutter. Damp on the chimney breast can also point to open joints, although the flashing or flaunching may be at fault. A survey with photographs settles it.

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